tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post2274168201064463082..comments2024-02-28T02:21:13.839-08:00Comments on Daily PUMA: The HILLARY'S VILLAGE FORUM TOPIC. YOU CAN LEAVE MESSAGES FOR EACH OTHER ON THIS TOPIC.Alessandro Machihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06316327488702524564noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-85190002946634838782019-02-22T04:49:05.122-08:002019-02-22T04:49:05.122-08:00In case anyone is having trouble making their pop ...In case anyone is having trouble making their pop up view of the comments go away so they can leave a comment, expand the image to full screen, this allows for a small space to appear at the top of the pop up so one can click there and the ability to actually post a comment is enabled. it took me a few minutes to figure it out. Gasp. Almost 10 years between comments. California Democrats have disillusioned me to the point where I have unregistered as a lifelong Democrat, and I am disappointed that Hillary Clinton never accepted blame for refusing to run Facebook Micro Ads during the 2016 Election. Alessandro Machihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06316327488702524564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-78472784157902058772009-08-05T16:40:00.352-07:002009-08-05T16:40:00.352-07:00People, think about this. SSOA and FT are silent. ...People, think about this. SSOA and FT are silent. WHY? Because they are protecting the privacy of their members from further violations by Okbiograd aka Pepper.<br /><br />Okbiograd/Peopper was an admin. She was taking screen shots of private info weeks before the Village had to close. SHE took advantage of her position/access to members info, to gain email addresses. SHE alone took the Village down. <br /><br />Who knows what her motives were? Her reasons given at her Fusion site clearly shows she cannot be trusted, that she was taking advantage of her mod position to "steal" private info. She caused the Vilage to be shut down to prevent her further access to info because even though she was justifiably banned, she had back room members sending her info.<br /><br />Anyone from the Village who has joined her Fusion site, watch your back. She killed the Village. She violated her position and she violated trust.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-24026463804284889342009-08-02T20:03:53.107-07:002009-08-02T20:03:53.107-07:00I know Pine Ridge Reservation was discussed a numb...I know Pine Ridge Reservation was discussed a number of times at the Village. Just found this photography site with some fascinating photos that truly give you a glimpse of life there.<br /><br />http://matthewphoto.blogspot.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-66034534914147807852009-08-02T12:23:15.764-07:002009-08-02T12:23:15.764-07:00Actually calling yourself the laughing stock of th...Actually calling yourself the laughing stock of the internet is the biggest poison of all, and I respectfully disagree.<br /><br />Most people have moved on. This one topic was just a moment in time for people to try and figure out what happened.<br /><br />The mere fact that anonymous people were allowed to post (I didn't want to force people to have to join google to post) means there can be no indictment of anyone.<br /><br />It just is what it is. The obots are far more laughable these days.<br /><br />Barack Obama invites Barney Fife and Fred Sanford to the White house while SHUNNING the two BRAVE WOMEN who reported what looked like a possible burglary, and they get ignored by Barack Obama.<br /><br />Now THAT is laughable. <br /><br /><a href="http://dailypuma.blogspot.com/2009/07/once-again-barack-obama-excludes-female.html" rel="nofollow">Barack Obama Excludes Females from White House Visit</a>Alessandro Machihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06316327488702524564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-10657747239907951612009-08-02T10:52:53.103-07:002009-08-02T10:52:53.103-07:00People for the love of Mike! This is a political f...People for the love of Mike! This is a political forum, it is a tool to use to collect information and prepare ourselves for the 2010 elections. This soap opera that is developing here of he said/she said is so out of proportion it is unreal. The finger pointing, the accusations and the melodrama are enough to drive sane people away from ALL Blogs! This is beginning to read like a cheezy dime store novel and it is making those of us that post there look like morons! Cut it out! We're becoming the laughing stock of the entire web!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-74058837285784510412009-07-31T15:13:43.738-07:002009-07-31T15:13:43.738-07:00First, nobody "stole" members from Murra...First, nobody "stole" members from Murray. He chose to open his site to Obama people and people left for that reason.<br /><br />As for Fusion, posting those chat logs was a really sorry thing to do. It reflects on Ace and Pepper and nobody else. If they are taking screen shots at the Village, how on earth can anyone trust them now????<br /><br />We have been given only the Fusion's side of this, and the fact that they publicly posted private info speaks to their character and trustworthyness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-88168634166931940132009-07-31T12:08:04.927-07:002009-07-31T12:08:04.927-07:00If you ask me SF is teaming up with HCF for some o...If you ask me SF is teaming up with HCF for some odd reason and they are bashing Hillary's Village and it's members. It is messed up!<br /><br />The only Hillary forum left is HW. The only Puma forum left is HW. The only forum left that wants to work toward the goals that we did from the primaries is HW.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-48571750006639490192009-07-30T18:01:02.535-07:002009-07-30T18:01:02.535-07:00Hey everyone, it's SugnSpicesMom from first HC...Hey everyone, it's SugnSpicesMom from first HCF and then HV. What in the living heck has been going on? I went to get on HV a week ago and poof - it was completely gone. I kept going back thinking it would be back on line but nothing. I hadn't posted in forever there - I just don't have the heart to anymore, I guess. But, I went there every day, several times a day in most cases to keep up with what was going on. I just couldn't bring myself to post for some reason.<br /><br />I poured my heart and soul into Hillary's campaign and then flipped to McCain/Palin. I have to say that the political environment is the filthiest, most vile arena and when it was all said and done I was completely exhausted and just wanted to retreat. But, I wanted to know what was going on, too and we all know we can't trust the media to tell the truth. So, I hung out lurking at HV to keep up but I knew nothing of all the drama that appears to have been going on. But, I am not going to judge any of the moderators or anyone else in charge there because I do not know what happened. I miss it though. I managed to find my way here via CGP (what a cess pool but I didn't know where else to turn. I'll at least give Murray credit for posting some places we could go in light of HV closing down).<br /><br />I have to say that the closing of HV just completely deflates whatever was left of the wind in my sails. Watching the media trash Hillary and then Sarah Palin was horrible and with each passing day I felt like I was just drowning in hateful rhetoric against the two of them. And then HV closes down amid accusations of all kinds and I'm beginning to wonder if I am living in the twilight zone. <br /><br />Anyway, I'm going to check out a couple of the other forums and see who all is there. I have missed all of you even if you haven't realized it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-5416393746317484382009-07-28T11:23:45.620-07:002009-07-28T11:23:45.620-07:00I think now might be a good time to post a new art...I think now might be a good time to post a new article to DailyPUMA. This will simply lower this topic down one step. It can still be easily viewable while no longer being the top top story.<br /><br />I did not want to drop too soon, and I don't want to leave it at the top too long either.Alessandro Machihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06316327488702524564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-45082612339909135122009-07-28T07:56:45.217-07:002009-07-28T07:56:45.217-07:00I've seen no such "forum wars", at l...I've seen no such "forum wars", at least nothing as bad as I've seen posted in this thread? They're all great places to visit, as is every blog listed on Daily Puma. Trust me, I'm still a member of DU and dKos! Just a few minutes of wallowing in Obama slobber makes me appreciate the heaven that are Puma blogs :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-30803864333877146662009-07-28T05:14:42.244-07:002009-07-28T05:14:42.244-07:00There was the Backroom at HV but there were also 5...There was the Backroom at HV but there were also 5 other private areas not everyone was a member of or allowed to view. That place was gossip central. The owners snooped on members, did background checks on them, read their private PMs and google'd potential new members.<br /><br />They should be sued and put in jail for the amount of invasion of privacy they conducted. Reading private PMs is the same as hacking into their email. What didn't they understand about the word private?<br /><br />What a bunch of crazy criminal losers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-18874931589328624402009-07-27T21:35:12.362-07:002009-07-27T21:35:12.362-07:00I was in the backroom at HillarysVillage. Contrary...I was in the backroom at HillarysVillage. Contrary to a previous poster here, there was little to no "gossiping" about members there but rather the backroom was utilized for longterm members (many who have known each other since the inception of HRC's campaign) to discuss personal celebrations/tribulations in their own life without confusing/boring new members who came to discuss Hillary and other political issues. I was thankful for the backroom so that I could update longterm members about my non-political goingson... my backroom posts were quite boring to anyone who did not know me.<br /><br />I miss HV and hope for its return.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-6360831579048895722009-07-27T21:25:41.962-07:002009-07-27T21:25:41.962-07:00All Hillary & No Drama:
http://hillarysworld....All Hillary & No Drama:<br /><br />http://hillarysworld.activeboard.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-53361120834689617072009-07-27T19:47:42.516-07:002009-07-27T19:47:42.516-07:00My suggestion would be to stay as far away as poss...My suggestion would be to stay as far away as possible from anything associated with or having any kind of ties in any way with HCF or HV presently or formerly. I just saw the latest and greatest trashing over at Stealth Fusion. This just makes them look worse and worse (and it doesn't look good for HV either). Everyone looks bad, and Hillary looks horrible.<br /><br />http://www.stealthfusion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1077<br /><br />And for those thinking CGP is innocent in this...in this thread he posts a link to the drama. And that guy never does anything not in his personal best interests. He’s out to trash HV in any way possible.<br /><br />http://www.commongroundpolitics.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=47555<br /><br />It just looks like a giant forum war and nothing beyond that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-18170108170513163612009-07-27T17:49:35.322-07:002009-07-27T17:49:35.322-07:00Sound Suggestions? Regroup Here: http://hillarysw...Sound Suggestions? Regroup Here: http://hillarysworld.activeboard.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-10923922533218699952009-07-27T15:35:14.117-07:002009-07-27T15:35:14.117-07:00There are some good points made here. In the heat ...There are some good points made here. In the heat of the moment <br /><br />We forgot to thank Daily Puma for allowing us to post here so let me thank him as a member of the Village. <br /><br />A lot of people got hurt and for the sake of being fair we do need to regroup. Get the message out to villagers to meet at designated spot so we can stay together.<br /><br />Lets not forget who we are, we are Hillary Villagers.<br /><br />Independent of forum SF who posted HV private information to trash HV <br />mods. Independent of other forums associated who may have prejudice.<br /><br />As far as PM go and private info mod room you can't just take it claim you are blowing a whistle or play God and decide to hurt people for the good of all which you are a part of and only after being banned then use it against the village. And tear every one apart.<br /><br />These actions are subject to internet law. Private communications are considered and addressed. You can't just go in and take it. Private communications are not public.<br />These actions must be evaluated by investigators.And they will evaluate how and when the forum was attacked.<br /><br />As we hurt the HV admin and mods must hurt worse not to be able for there side to be heard. Close the HV forum for our protection to safe guard our information Remember they protected us and kept us safe never asked for money to run the site.<br /><br />What we have here is a take over and peeps have to decide what they want to do so lets get some sound suggestions so we can continue as a group.<br /><br /><br />Yes we can go where we want but dose some one have a sugg?<br /><br /><br />So we can stay together and help each other.<br /><br />So we can leave Peace here at Daily Puma.<br /><br />Sorry Puma for drama, again Thank you for putting up this thread.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-11994260655492526102009-07-27T12:18:57.317-07:002009-07-27T12:18:57.317-07:00OMG will this never end?
1 - Murray's "...OMG will this never end? <br /><br />1 - Murray's "members" were NOT stolen from him by Hillary's Village or anyone else. Murray posted that his Forum was CLOSING on Nov. 5th. And it did. Hillary's Village did not go behind his back and steal members. They did inform members with PM's, late evening on Nov. 4th the information about their site. In other words Murray can't cry over the loss of something HE threw away. HCF was a wonderful site - but Murray's own actions is the reason that so many members left, not the actions of others.<br /><br />2 - The IM messages on display were between FT, SSOA, Ace, and Pepper (okbiograd). So therefore they are NOT proof of spying on other members. Screen shots were taken by Ace and Pepper NOT FT and SSOA. And if the "hack" on PM is true it was installed by ACE. So why do you believe him that he did it for them and not for himself? He is the computer wiz - he would be the only one who even knew that such was even possible. Not to mention he is the only one admitting to do so. <br /><br />3 - FT and SSOA are silent -yes but maybe for good reasons. We just don't know. If they were the victims of a former employee hacking or sabotaging their site they might NOT be able to speak. <br /><br />4- None of this changes the one fact we do know - Ace by his own admission took screen shots of private IM exchanges and then posted them all over his site. There is no way to authenticated them. But if they are true - HE AGREED - and put on a hack program and - HE AGREED to MONITOR - the members PM's. Now why would you use his site?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-27970921827378353352009-07-27T11:52:09.094-07:002009-07-27T11:52:09.094-07:00Holy Frijoles! This is a busy place.
It is time ...Holy Frijoles! This is a busy place.<br /><br />It is time to take some deep cleansing breathes here. Alessandro, thanks for opening up the channels for communication here.<br /><br />I don't know if the HV will return and if it does when.<br /><br />We all have to remember that the internet is not a private place as much as we would all like it to be. Text messages are easily misinterpreted and it is also easy to see anger where there is none. It is also easy to change the context of a text by just leaving out certain sections for display.<br /><br />It is an individuals choice where they frequent on the internet. Many good places have been set up in the absence of the HV and I welcome you to make your choice as you see fit. I personally only visit for the food (pie in particular), but that is just my weakness.<br /><br />If the Village does comes back up, we know how to contact Alessandro here at the Daily Puma and will alert as many people as we can of its return. I don't want to stifle the dialog here, I just want you to know as a previous Admin from the HV that we want what is best for you; and that is whatever you want it to be.Optixmomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00777379336330312818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-76821005457416223632009-07-27T09:46:35.485-07:002009-07-27T09:46:35.485-07:00Quote from Anonymous to follow ( By the way, for y...Quote from Anonymous to follow ( By the way, for you bloggingsoftware developers, it would be interesting if all Anonymous comments could be consecutively numbered as they appear on a comments section so people know which anonymous comment is being replied to.)<br /><br />Anonymous quote "Just an FYI....attacking other blogs,forums or websites publically is not real cool. In fact, it can make your own look foolish and people will avoid it. I've never had a problem with any site that has ever linked to Daily Puma. Ever. Now I'm suspicious of those who play meanspirted games here...." end quote.<br /><br />Daily PUMA's purpose in providing this comments section was providing a place to give out updates to those who were, or who felt cut off when HV down.<br /><br />When HCF closed the first time back in November of 2008, I realized that I had some articles posted on HCF that I had really researched and that did not exist in their final form anywhere else on the internet. I did not like that feeling of helplessness.<br />Murray answered all of my emails and thankfully the forum did not lose those old posts when it came back online.<br /><br />I think it is important that people have a chance to update what is going on, and that is why I started this topic. <br /><br />I was hoping for a "happy landing", where people would regroup and go forward as a team.<br /><br />My take on everything I have read on this comments section is this, "YOU CAN'T SPY ON Personal Messages". If that was happening, then that one issue overrides everything else.<br /><br />On the other hand, on the internet I live by one simple rule. I ASSUME everything I PM or email is for public consumption whether I like or not.<br /><br />However, my philosophy does not excuse the possibility that spying on PM's was going on. If spying of PM's was going on, than it is unacceptable. <br /><br />If PM spying was going on, and no admission and apology comes forth, than we have a situation where we the people are no different than the politicians we so easily condemn.<br /><br />Unless we view those PM spys as being just more politicians.<br /><br />I suspended writing any new articles this past weekend out of respect to the members of HV and those who came from HCF to HV because this must hurt them the most, to see their place suddenly close shop and they are left out in the internet dust. <br /><br />If DailyPUMA had posted a new article this past weekend this article would have dropped down on position. Rather than do that, DailyPUMA wanted to make sure enough people saw it higher on the page first.<br /><br />I personally did not want to throw more fuel on the fire. DailyPUMA is hopefully a place where everybody might know to go and check out to see what was going on in regards to HV.<br /><br />DailyPUMA did the same thing when HCF first closed down last November, DailyPUMA provided HCF updates. Here is the link to that specific article. <a href="http://dailypuma.blogspot.com/2008/11/news-flash-hillary-clinton-forumnet.html" rel="nofollow">Hillary Clinton Forum Update</a><br /><br />Please don't think there was any sinister reasoning in DailyPUMA doing the same thing now for Hillarys Village.<br /><br />And lets also understand that one or two very private ulterior motives does not have to sink an entire ship.Alessandro Machihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06316327488702524564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-18766150106746669142009-07-27T08:27:08.478-07:002009-07-27T08:27:08.478-07:00Does anyone think the village will reopen? I have...Does anyone think the village will reopen? I haven't joined any other sites after reading these messages. I'm afraid to now. I was a member at the village and it was a respectable place to post. I miss it. I think I will keep reading before making a decision and see what transpires. I wish the Admins would post something, anything?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-56378942937394007892009-07-27T07:21:35.421-07:002009-07-27T07:21:35.421-07:00I'm an original poster from the beginnings of ...I'm an original poster from the beginnings of HCF. I am going to choose to remain anonymous for the sake of privacy and my personal information. There are too many sharks in these waters and I have no idea who to trust anymore.<br /><br />HV was not hacked. Anyone that read those private chat conversations on SF knows this. It's plain as day. Ace is the techie who installed a 'hack' on HV to read members' private messages. The admins wanted this 'hack'. They were SNOOPING on all their members. Believe it. ACE saved all those convos to save his own ass and to recruit members to his own (lame) site. <br /><br />Now is this fair? Who's to say. HV did the same thing to HCF. They stole Murray's members. They engaged in backstabbing and flamed Murray so turnabout is fair play. Karma and all that. I will say both forums have backroom private member only areas where they talk about their members. If you post at those forums chances are you are talked about. A LOT. That's just what they do. <br /><br />HV had an agenda and were controlling asswipes that gossiped and invaded their members' privacy. THATS WHY THEY CLOSED THEY WERE CAUGHT. It took ACE to come clean about the private message hacks for them to close. THEY WERE READING YOUR PRIVATE MESSAGES PEOPLE. Don't think this isn't going on at ACEs board either. <br /><br />Good luck to all and if you care about your privacy and personal information stay far far FAR away from HCF, HV and ACE.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-77154430064509692582009-07-27T06:11:28.045-07:002009-07-27T06:11:28.045-07:00Just an FYI....attacking other blogs,forums or web...Just an FYI....attacking other blogs,forums or websites publically is not real cool. In fact, it can make your own look foolish and people will avoid it. I've never had a problem with any site that has ever linked to Daily Puma. Ever. Now I'm suspicious of those who play meanspirted games here....how is it helping YOUR website? I love you all, now play nice....hoping for HV's speedy recovery...in the meantime, aren't we all on the same "team" :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-32917403153513513432009-07-27T03:34:10.208-07:002009-07-27T03:34:10.208-07:00No mother of Three its not Axelrod.
The hackers c...No mother of Three its not Axelrod.<br /><br />The hackers could be bots though.<br /><br />All eyes are on Stealth fusion which posted harassing messages on there forum against admin of HV.<br /><br />These where pm messages that were hacked from the site.<br /><br />Be careful where you put your trust now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-38744906577390830362009-07-27T01:41:11.786-07:002009-07-27T01:41:11.786-07:00Hey it's MotherofThree here. I'm so glad t...Hey it's MotherofThree here. I'm so glad to find you. I miss HV. There are so many Obama gaffes right now, and no one to laugh with and say "I told you so."<br /><br />Ha ha ha<br /><br />Oh, and even though I'm a Palin fan, let me truly apologize for any of my ilk who were disrespectful toward Hillary. It is my mission in life to set the record straight among my fellow Republicans. The Clintons were HARRASSED by political operatives just as Sarah Palin is enduring similar tactics from ruthless people who can't win in the field of ideas. <br /><br />And I always stand up for Hillary. She is doing a GREAT job as SOS. I stand for women, against sexist slurs at all times. <br /><br />Is there any way this hacking could be an Axelrod thing? You know, too much critism of Obozo, and with Hillary's name associated?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1406748910519793683.post-12325208634325808532009-07-27T01:07:13.131-07:002009-07-27T01:07:13.131-07:00An FBI agent? For what? I'm so confused.An FBI agent? For what? I'm so confused.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com